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PostWysłany: Wto 9:00, 30 Lis 2010    Temat postu: First, the chicken or the egg

(I think the logic) The key problem is that you have the patience to read on Well?? Ha ha!
*** I finally had the \ problems in solving the chicken and egg problem, we first look at another issue , the title is as follows:
3 people go out to play, live hotel, opened a general room 30. To pay 10 dollars per person. Which knows the boss a promotion day, 25 per ordinary room, then back to 5 dollars to the waiter 3 people, waiters greedy, secretly withheld the 2 dollars, then, is to pay a total of 3 people 9 * 3 = 27 money .. 27 +2 = 29. The other a dollar that it?
misleading above is a typical type of subject, why is it misleading, in fact, if you are in reality to open the common room price 30 yuan, after the discount you spend 27 yuan, including 2 million tip the waiter, after paying the entire cost of the future will not be any problems, you just paid you a total of 27 yuan on the line, as for that 27 yuan attendants and shop owner how to divide none of your things, more to do with anything that price 30 yuan! So, the last of which these questions asked \ step inside a set of ideas, leading to logic errors!

Well, get on it now, \ So a word: this problem does not exist! Of course, this is the final conclusion, as to how to come to this conclusion, I need to elaborate clear, because the nature of the problem though is misleading, but it hides a deeper, greater, most people can easily been fooled! The problem is only one sentence: first, the chicken or the egg? This phrase itself is a misleading preconceptions you set up a set, similar to the first question above, the last of the phrase \

ask you a question: first, first , you or your mother? (Refusing to answer the question fool)
A: First there is the mother
B: first, I
C: My mom and I also have
D: do not know
E: first, Dad

If your answer is B, C, D or E, please immediately leave the theme, I refuse to look down you: First, in order to ensure that normal people can talk and thinking; Second, in order not to waste your valuable time; also suggest you go to non-normal human promising research center doing research!

If your answer is A, welcome to continue to read:
believe that normal people can be very easy and an affirmative answer this question I raised is that you mother first came to this world than you; and the \ words began to gradually peeling, faded camouflage it, exposing its original features:
first, the chicken or the egg first ====== faded leather ======> have your mom or chicken first, you
1 ---> egg 1 ---> chicken 2 --- > egg 2 ---> chicken 3 ---> egg 3 --->......
your mother ---> you ---> your child ---> Children --- your child> you child child Children --->......
primitive in the absence of the time involved at least we know now the eggs are hatched by the chicken, so the top of the chicken 1 egg production 1 , 2 eggs, 1 hatched chickens are not illegal. Approach is used in fertility chicken oviparous, to discharge plus hatching eggs to produce the next generation of the way; and analog humans, viviparous reproductive mode is used, that is the next generation of first in utero to form a complete individual life and then eliminated from the body produce the next generation. Here we analyze the mode of reproduction and the two make a few chicken and human analogy: the chicken and human counterparts, eggs fertilized with human counterparts, chicken coop and placental counterparts,
chicken people who
fertilized eggs
henhouse placenta
comparison found that although the two different forms, that show different ways to nurture a body of a body, but the essence is the same, that is produced by a fertilized egg the next generation of life of the individual, but their transition to life in the egg This process requires the individual external conversion conditions are different, or just not the same as a catalytic manner. Equation with a metaphor:
chicken eggs ================> chicken
catalytic manner
people who catalytic manner

eggs ================> children reach only a catalytic manner purpose of the conditions, we can leave it the details that the two catalytic manner as a black box, (black-box generated by chicken eggs, fertilized eggs were produced by children black box), we can see that the propagation of the two is essentially the same, is called by a rounded \ So much nonsense, detailed enough to speak, and finally introduced to one conclusion: the next generation of chicken and human nature have in fact just the same! If you do not agree with this conclusion, in order to save you valuable time, please do not continue to look down because I follow all the conclusions are based on its previous reasoning, so if you do not agree with reasoning behind not see necessary! So be sure to carefully consider whether you agree with this reasoning!

We ' ve already produced the next generation to know the chicken and human nature is the same, since the essence is the same, then we would not be necessary to go in or whether it is in the placenta egg shell birth, nor necessary to hell in which space (in vivo or in vitro), as said earlier the birth of space and so is their different catalytic conditions are different, and do not affect their nature as long as we seize the essentially unchanged on the line. So that we essentially unchanged in the guarantee, under the conditions in the middle of the catalyst to make some articles, so that the two look closer! Assuming adequate medical science developed, the fertilized egg in the human body can be directly out of the body and then bred in an artificial placenta, the artificial appearance of the placenta is smooth, oval shape similar to the egg, the fertilized egg into the transmission equipment which can be slow through nutrition slow growth (assuming that this referred to people inside the fertilized eggs), so that the catalytic conditions in the human made a point of the article, people try to simulate the propagation of catalysis similar with the chicken, well, now that human reproduction becomes as follows: maternal discharge fertilized egg, and then the fertilized eggs grow into individual life after birth , so just like the chicken remained the same mode of reproduction. Then the chicken and human analogy:
chicken eggs people who
eggs
chicken

children can know by the above analogy between the mode of reproduction can be seen as exactly the same, it is through the middle catalytic conditions, the propagation of the results to make a change, but does not change the nature of the two reproductive modes ---> produce the next generation of eggs. Since essentially the same, so the change in the middle of catalytic conditions is feasible and reasonable. At this point, we can be transformed to the original question:

chicken eggs produced by chickens -> hen eggs, chicken eggs, chickens, raw eggs ... -> in the end first, the chicken or the egg?
who have children through human eggs -> Life who eggs, one egg strangers, who in life was the first egg ...--> in the end or the first one egg?

essence the same as the above two issues, good point, we have successfully transformed the issues: in the end or the first one was first egg? Here we use mathematical methods to answer this question:

known: one egg = zygote, your mother = person, your mother's fertilized egg = you, ask the first one in the end or the first one egg?

Solution: Because your mother = person, human eggs = eggs, so the question above, \ your mother, \, Also under the given conditions: your mother's fertilized egg = you, so put that \
come: in the end or the first one was first egg? Can translate into success: in the end first, first, your mother or you?
and because \ first, you or your mother, \ Mom is still first, you \ For the latter question to answer based on common sense and can be drawn in front of normal people will answer \ At this point, so:

Q: in the end first, first, you or your mother?
A: first, Mom!

===>

Q: in the end first, the chicken or the egg?
A: first, the chicken!
this point, the proof is ready!

also come from the perspective of life and enhance the structure of the correctness of my conclusion: a living system by the respiratory system, digestive system, circulatory system, nervous system, reproductive system, and so different the system components, the lack of the same can not be called a complete life system, so the life system and these subsystems is a complementary relationship between, there is no life system there is no sub, no sub group is also not a life system, it first partakers of life system or systems before it. If you already have the life we know the system, then it must surely have been sub-systems that otherwise can not be called living systems, on the contrary, if you have a sub, but the subsystem is not very developed or very mature sound that can not be formed life time, this time we can consider the system before it can be partakers of life systems, but those sub-systems is not mature, that is, first,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], an immature sub-systems and then slowly sophisticated form of life systems. To one of the subsystems (reproductive system), for example, so that we can say that first, an immature reproductive system, and only living systems. So the chicken as a living system,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], it can be considered first,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], the reproductive system have its life systems, but first,[link widoczny dla zalogowanych], some that are very immature reproductive system is not perfect, ie, not reproductive function, because if there is reproductive features that living systems that has been formed, it has the features from the moment that the life of the system has been formed! The raw eggs as a reproductive system functioning as a form of reproduction, reproductive system must be only the first egg has a reproductive function, and reproductive system functional at the same time means that the formation of living systems, it is certain that before the first living system egg. The chicken as a living system, we can know for sure is the first, the chicken and then have the eggs!


egg commentators, before you do, I know you need to know is: Since the first, the chicken, it was initially chicken come from? Crooked Rui too old, good question! In fact, this problem has been very clear, and we go searching for answers from the person, we already know, the first of the fertilized egg was then man, then where's the first that person is, that there would be no Adam and Eve, they are changes to the do fertilized eggs, apparently not. This involves a problem of the origin of life, mankind is still exploring, in accordance with my own thinking, people must be the ultimate wisdom of the universe, the design and creation. If you find this answer unsatisfactory, then we evolved from a reproductive point of view there is another possibility: we know that the world's first cloned sheep from a sheep through a somatic cell nucleus after transplantation to enucleated egg to mature develop into a life in the individual, that provides the body cells of the sheep (for the time being this sheep called sheep A, the cloned sheep is called lamb B), it is not produced by the fertilized egg and the offspring develop into somatic cells from sheep A normal fertilized eggs from fertility methods, and the sheep B cells from the cloned sheep, A, birth, meaning that the A-> B the way they changed birth, assuming B began to have a way to reproduce by cloning, then the breeding has been going to that one of the final result is, perhaps there will ask the question: the lamb from the old body cells of sheep, goats, sheep from the body are appearing cells , the initial, or first, first, the sheep somatic cell? In fact, this is a very silly question, as we asked the first, the chicken or the egg, we dare to imagine the process of evolution of the chicken may be a change in the mode of reproduction, as to why change can be evolutionary Results can also be the result of external force (for example, we invented the reproductive cloning of such a method), it might initially is another mode of reproduction, and later as a change in the way of reproductive become oviparous, as the above AB sheep to sheep, the reproductive process is a way to suddenly change, so come back to answer the first time that chicken come from, it is perhaps from another mode of reproduction of chicken a chicken produced by another, not in anyway way to produce eggs!

end result is definitely a chicken first and then have the eggs!!!


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